In the UK at Kent ~ Fathers 4 Justice descend on Canterbury for Christmas demonstration

Fathers 4 Justice campaigners in Canterbury. Picture: Barry Duffield

by Adam Williams and Katie Lamborn

Campaigners from Fathers 4 Justice descended on Canterbury on Saturday for a special Christmas demonstration.

The group, known for a series of high-profile stunts, dressed as Santa Claus and assembled in the city's Buttermarket Sqaure with banners, loud horns and megaphones.

Speaking from the scene on Saturday, KM Group reporter Katie Lamborn said: "It's an electric carnival atmostphere - everyone's in good spirits. There are lots of megaphones and plenty of chanting about 'two parents being better than one'.

"There's a visible police presence - but everyone seems to be having a good time trying to get their message across."

Among the protesters was Darren Ash, 34, from Beltinge, near Herne Bay. He has been fighting for access to his daughter for more than a decade after his relationship with her mother ended amicably.

Mr Ash said: "We're here in Canterbury to send a message to Rowan Williams to listen. The church talks about being 'in the name of the Father' but they're not prepared to discuss the issue of the father."

At one stage, the protesters attempted to enter the Cathedral Precincts from Buttermarket Square but were initially turned away by police. However, they were later allowed to go in and have a photograph taken.

After the demonstration had ended at around 1.30pm, Mr Ash added: "I thought we got a very good response. Thank you to everyone for coming down to support us."

A statement issued by Fathers 4 Justice members ahead of the protest last month read: "Dressed in Santa outfits, we will yet again attempt to get our message across to the church who, like this arrogant Labour government, have ignored the plight of fathers for years.

"We have decided to take the campaign back to the church as it and its synod have not debated family breakdown since 1991. The Church of England and its representatives must stop ignoring the consequences of this issue."

Friday, December 11 2009

Visitor Comments

• Good Luck!

  11/12/2009 2:41:53 PM
  by Phil Davies

  I would like to say Good Luck to Darren & all the Fathers 4 Justice guys attending on Saturday!!! I hope some progress can be made!

• Demonstration F4J

  11/12/2009 9:36:18 PM
  by Mike Murphy

  Best wishes from way over here in Sault Ste. Marie, On Canada. I have some snow I can donate for that Christmas feeling.

This ad campaign is a breath of fresh air targeted at the forgotten demographic of males who need to get in touch with their masculinity if they have forgotten how. Most marketing companies target females and in so doing have no difficulty in showing men as bumbling idiots living with the competent, super wife (proxy mommy) who does most of the buying and household management. The Marxist victimfemis have gotten their knickers in a bonnet over it and will be screeching sexism to the UN High Commission on Progressive Speaking and Political Correctness. (In case you are an ill informed femi that was sarcasm - the organization is fictional but metaphorical.)

Men today can go through school from JK to K12 and never see a male teacher. Men today are outnumbered as University grads in all degree programs by 148 female degrees -100 male. Many men are feminized and don't even know it because they have lacked good male role models. Moms in Canada and the USA respectively get sole physical custody in 90% and 84% of cases. Similar situations exist in the UK, Australia, NZ and many other western democracies.

Its almost as though everywhere men are ensconced they drink their Lattes at the behest of some invisible curtain of Feminist Political Correctness hanging over them that has taken their family jewels and done something to them that is not in keeping with good breeding.

I'll buy some more Dockers, I've been a fan for a very long time, and be glad of the chutzpa to target men as the buyers not the "super woman" we see portrayed in commercials and TV sitcoms. If you like the approach let Levi Straus know here. I have. http://www.levistrauss.com/Company/ContactUsForm.aspx?loc=2. MJM

Links where this is discussed:

http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/2009/12/09/2009-12-09_new_dockers_ad_campaign_for_soft_khakis_brings_charges_of_sexism_over_.html#community

http://current.com/items/91664049_new-dockers-wear-the-pants-ad-campaign-for-soft-khakis-brings-charges-of-sexism.htm

New Dockers 'wear the pants' ad campaign for soft khakis brings charges of sexism

BY Rosemary Black
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER

Wednesday, December 9th 2009, 2:05 PM

The Dockers 'Man-ifesto,' part of the new ad campaign for its khakis brand, implores men to 'wear the pants' once again.

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Khakis get 'manly'

Real men are set to wear the pants again - at least if you believe the new Dockers ads for khakis. But some are seeing subtle sexist overtones in the costly new ad campaign.

One of the new ads says, "It's time to answer the call of manhood," and the company's Web site exhorts men to "wear the pants."

A "Man-ifesto" posted on Dockers.com begins, "Once upon a time, men wore the pants, and wore them well. Women rarely had to open doors ... Men took charge because that's what they did."

"Disco by disco, latte by foamy non-fat latte, men were stripped of their khakis and left stranded on the road between boyhood and androgyny," the ad continues.

"Just because the Dockers ads are tongue in cheek does not mean that they're not sexist," wrote WalletPop.com blogger Jami Bernard in a recent post. "It's one thing to encourage men to man up, another to tell them to ‘wear the pants' - an expression that taps directly into the old question, ‘Who wears the pants in the family?'"

Dockers is reintroducing the brand - which, according to The New York Times, many young men associate with the 1990s and "casual" Fridays - with a big-budget blast including radio, print, poster and online advertising. Social media like Facebook and Twitter will be used in the ambitious ad campaign, which debuted earlier in December, and TV commercials will begin in February, with Dockers ads returning to the Super Bowl after an eight-year hiatus, according to The Times.

But just whom are they hoping to attract with the ads? Jennifer Sey, Dockers' vice president of global marketing, said in an interview in Brandweek that "sensitivity, chivalry, ambition and decisiveness" are on her wish list for the traits of "the modern idea of a man." The new promos hopefully will "inspire today's men to be men," she said in the interview.

Walletpop.com's Bernard feels the Dockers' ads "take an unnecessary snipe at gay men through the use of common wink-wink stereotypes. According to Dockers, a real man doesn't eat at salad bars or order nonfat lattes."

The new ad campaign may succeed at making 25- to 35-year-olds khaki-conscious. Jim Calhoun, president for the Dockers brand at Levi Strauss, told The Times, "I don't think that we, as leaders of the category, have done much to keep the khaki category fresh and exciting, to give the consumers a reason to buy."

Whether or not younger men will fall for soft slacks in muted shades remains to be seen. But one thing Dockers has going in its favor: an attractive price. The khakis generally sell for $25 to $55.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/2009/12/09/2009-12-09_new_dockers_ad_campaign_for_soft_khakis_brings_charges_of_sexism_over_.html#community#ixzz0ZUnKKLLK

A couple more comments from the Current site:

I think it is interesting that anyone, male or female, would get so much of their own self identity from clothing; or from someone telling them that if they wear certain clothing they will be percieved as the person they want to be. I also think it is interesting that as a society we still see the relationship between men and women as one of dominence. That we feel that one or the other has to be bigger, better, badder or stronger than the other. I think it would be nice if we could just accept each other as equals with our own specific traits and strengths that are not necessarily bound by gender. We are all just people, different 'parts' but basically the same. The only thing that makes us different is our own self perception. Seems to me that the folks this ad is targeting might want to work on their self esteem.

• rhubarb64
• 2 hours ago

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• The ad is selling clothing but the message is the important issue not the clothing. It has broken the politically correct feminist hold on marketing departments. Your message is the same old - same old feminist drivel about us all being people and the same. Tell that to all the dads who lost custody of their children because of feminist mythology. Tell that to the 24,000,000 children who don't have dads in their lives because family courts give mom 84% physical custody in the USA and 90% in Canada. If you believe in equality then get to work on equal shared parenting with moms and dads.
  
  Men and women are fundamentally different - not the same - and years of feminization of men with propaganda about men finding their feminine side is trash talk. Why don't we instead talk about women finding their masculine side. We are men not hybrid's created in Dr. Femi's bio lab.
  
  The ad has little to do with clothing but at lot to do with the distance men are from their own masculinity. If you think this has anything to do with male self esteem you are dreaming in technicolour. I challenge you to look at the following in your artificial world next time you get up in the morning: Don't do anything to your hair but brush it, no straightening, no hair spray, no conditioner, don't fret over what to wear just throw on a suit, don't wear lipstick or makeup. Don't fret over which panties to wear unless you are planning to get undressed during the day to enjoy your sexual liberation.
  
  Do what many office men do, brush your teeth, your hair put on some comfortable or office appropriate suit and off you go. I say office or indoor work because there are no feminists working construction, fixing electrical lines, working in the sewers, operating that noisy jackhammer, climbing telephone poles in ice storms, placing steel in skyscrapers exposed to the elements, welding steel outdoors at -30 in northern Canada, de-icing airplanes in frigid conditions, working in mines below ground or offshore oil rigs pumping oil out of the bottom of the ocean, as some examples of why men earn more than women. When by mid morning coffee break all the another Sisters at the office are gathered around without you making furtive glances your way about the crisis you must be having give us a report on your self esteem.
  
  The only glimmer of truth in your soliloquy is both men and women are people and should be equal. Lets work on the latter like the feminists did in the 60's instead of all this 3rd wave feminist psycho babble women are victims men are oppressive patriarchs.
  
  The ad is the message not the clothing but I'm a Docker's pants fan and always have been. I still have some of different colours - even tan but I prefer navy blue.

  

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Fathers 4 Justice descend on Canterbury for Christmas demonstration

Fathers 4 Justice campaigners pictured on a previous demonstration in Canterbury in 2004.

by Adam Williams

Campaigners from Fathers 4 Justice will descend on Canterbury on Saturday for a special Christmas demonstration.

The group, known for a series of high-profile stunts, will dress as Santa Claus and assemble in the city's Buttermarket Sqaure with banners, loud horns and megaphones.

They plan to take their message to the Cathedral in the hope the church will do more to recognise the role of the father in the family.

A statement issued by members last month read: "Dressed in Santa outfits, we will yet again attempt to get our message across to the church who, like this arrogant Labour government, have ignored the plight of fathers for years.

"We have decided to take the campaign back to the church as it and its synod have not debated family breakdown since 1991.

"The Church of England and its representatives must stop ignoring the consequences of this issue.

"To do this, we would like as many Kent dads as possible to attend dressed in Santa outfits."

Among them will be Darren Ash from Herne Bay, who has been fighting for access to his daughter for more than a decade after his relationship with her mother ended amicably.

But, despite securing four court orders granting him access and spending £7,000 in legal fees, Darren, 34, from Beltinge (pictured left) has only been allowed one overnight stay.

He said: "Family laws are confusing.

"The court orders have been made and then they have been broken by the mother and the courts do nothing whatsoever to enforce them.

"Any other court order being broken would end up in someone either being arrested or cautioned."

The group will assemble in Buttermarket Square between 10am and 2pm on Saturday.

http://www.kentonline.co.uk/kentish_gazette/news/2009/december/11/fathers_4_justice_demo.aspx

See the location on Google Earth here

http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=51.2782,1.08309&spn=0.006711,0.013132&z=15&key=ABQIAAAAnd1R8Vzhw-Nf-bOST_G0dxQXmapB6V2ITOvJVkbrDaA6acGT_RSRrdR0o7q_k6fEXuQWdl5l4q8oQQ&mapclient=jsapi&oi=map_misc&ct=api_logo

Mom doesn't like Dad gets Daughter to help in plot to Kill him

Murder Plot Case to Return in New Year



Posted By ANDREA HOUSTON , EXAMINER STAFF WRITER

Posted December 9, 2009

The 47-year-old woman charged with conspiracy to commit murder will return to Ontario Court of Justice on Jan. 12.

Crystal Tinor and her daughter Ashley were charged Nov. 16 after city police said they attempted to hire a hitman to kill 48-year-old Mario Tinor, Crystal's husband and Ashley's father.

Police said they were notified on Nov. 9 by a third party, who knew about the plan.

An undercover officer then portrayed himself as a potential hitman that the women were trying to hire, police said. Police said the daughter helped set up the meeting and the mother told the undercover officer she wanted her husband killed.

http://www.thepeterboroughexaminer.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2212976

Another "Girly Man" rises up to crush Mysogyny - Meet Julian Real

Here's a male (note I didn't use the term man) who has a mission to promote feminism and by extension self-loathing of his own gender. He's not the only radical pro-feminist male but I'd just love to interview him to see what pathologies I can discern to cause someone to be a radical "girly man" as the Governor of California has termed his type.MJM

"Julian Real

• Gender: Male

About Me

I am a radical profeminist who is working to promote anti-patriarchal, anti-racist, anti-colonialist, pro-Indigenist perspectives and activism. I also seek to hold profeminist and misogynist men accountable, so women don't have to do all that work all the damn time."

http://radicalprofeminist.blogspot.com/2009/12/whats-wrong-with-fathers-rights.html

Jonathan Kay: How did the École Polytechnique anniversary get transformed into a festival of cynical, hyperfeminist propaganda?

My comments on the National Post site.

I'm not sure if many of you know about the Duluth Wheel used in most DV shelters in North America, in Anger Management programs for men, and in Academia. It is psycho babble that posits Men wish to inherently control women (its in our genes) and we use many forms of behaviour to do it including physical and psychological coercion. It states that the Patriarchy is responsible for everything that ails women. In simple terms man is bad - woman is benign.

Women, therefore, need a protector from men and this is the nanny state. Statism, when it comes to females, is the new patriarch. The lead agency is the Status of Women Canada, the countries lead proponent of misandry.

In order to continue the flow of money to SOW and all the Provincial equivalents that funnels it into programs, Academia, studies, DV shelters, counselling programs and bricks and mortars where required requires marketing.

The Victim oriented feminists like Rebick, Michelle Landsberg in her day et al use December 6 as one of their lead events to market their victim hood and remind politicians to bow down to the fact, if male, they owe females big time for the transgression committed by one nut bar. All leftoid politicos, and some red Tories buy into it because it is seen as the Politically Correct thing to do. All leftoid media jump on the band wagon for the same reason. It has no downside when it comes to voters - or so they think.

It is an event to market victim feminism not remember the tragedy of these people killed and wounded, some of whom were men. That is what modern 3rd wave feminism does and they are good at it. Most men are afraid to utter discord in fear of their family jewels being treated in a fashion not overly consistent with good breeding. Many are metaphorical eunuchs.

In simple terms the comparison of Sebrenica with Montreal is stark. Females have far more value than males. After all we are men and because of our testosterone and socialization we can just suck it up but women (according to the feminists) are far more fragile and cannot.

Here is one of the many comments by a victim feminist who clearly hates men.

"Under patriarchy, every woman is a victim, past, present and future. Under patriarchy, every woman's daughter is a victim, past, present and future. Under patriarchy, every woman's son is her potential betrayer and also the inevitable rapist or exploiter of another woman."

Andrea Dworkin Liberty, p. 58. MJM

Posted: December 09, 2009, 1:15 AM by Jonathan Kay

Jonathan Kay

On July 12, 1995, Serbian forces near Srebrenica began cleansing the local population of Muslims. Like the Nazis who greeted Jews at the concentration camps, the Serb commanders sent their prey off in different directions. Women and children were put on buses, and expelled to the Muslim-majority Bosniak territory up north. But the men, including boys as young as 14, were directed instead to a building described as the "White House."

They never came out. Most were killed with a single bullet to the head, but others were left to die through more gruesome methods. More than 8,000 Bosniaks perished in the Srebrenica massacre, all but a few dozen of them male.

In other words, this genocide wasn't just aimed at Muslims, but more at male Muslims. If you were a woman, you lived. If you were a man, some Serbian Josef Mengele would wave his hand and dispatch you to the charnel house.

And yet, do any of us mourn the dead of Srebrenica as anything except human beings — as opposed to martyrs for manhood? When the 15th anniversary of this episode is observed in July, will male bloggers wail about their lot — about how they live shorter, more violent lives than women? Will the event become a pretext for complaints about, say, child-custody bias in family courts?

Somehow, I doubt it. So why is our observance of the the École Polytechnique Massacre — whose 20th anniversary passed over the weekend — always shot through with exactly this sort of crass activism?